At some point, Nico got these from from a seller on Ebay in Canada for a song, back when they weren't so horribly expensive. They are a staple of Trocadero's live set, as Brandon plays the drums while playing these pedals. They sound relatively unobtrusive on recordings (even if they require a lot of care, since they tend to "eat" anything in the low mids and below) it is live, through a good PA that they really come alive.